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Posted by: tasker at October 13, 2011 05:38 PM (rJVPU)
That's just fucking retarded. The corporate income tax rate goes from 30+ to 9, so price go down. Don't get me wrong, my company will try to keep as much of that as possible- but my competiton will force me to lower prices.

462 @428- Your points need to be brought up again and again.

Perry, Cain or Romney can beat Obie. The polls show this.

Cain has no record to run on, his 999 plan has serious risks and weaknesses. Romney is what he is.

Perry is strong on tort reform, fiscal discipline, Israel, energy development, social issues, getting rid of regulations and the 10th amendment. He is personable and gives a great speech.

His one weakness, immigration, is really not what people make it out to be, if you study his true position. He has spent a great deal of money to secure the Texas border.

So what is our problem with Perry? If we really analyze it, the problems we have with Perry have come about in part from his own missteps (which aren't any worse than any other candidates missteps), but also in large part because we allow ourselves to be distracted by the elite Reps, the media and all the people caterwauling against him. He is a good, potentially great candidate if we will give him a chance. I hope we will.

463 steevy. I can relate. I'm simply trying to point out that Cain has a lot of issues that haven't been discussed or the focus of the media because he's been a second banana for most of the race.
Think of what happened to Perry when he got in. Those first two debates were nothing but questions like, "Rick Perry is awful, you're thought Mr.Santorum?"
Let's see how Cain can weather that storm, before we all jump aboard his bandwagon.
The simply fact is that the field is set, Perry and Romney have the money, support and infrastructure for the long haul.
I would much much prefer Perry. And if we handicap Perry by splitting out vote between the also rans in the early primary states then we'll guarantee that Perry will be running from behind in the later primary states(or as I like to call them, the other 46 states).
It happened in 2008 and we ended up with McCain. By the time we realized McCain might actually win it was too late because we were splitting our votes between Mitt and Huckabee. I just want to avoid that.

464 "The corporate income tax rate goes from 30+ to 9, so price go down. Don't get me wrong, my company will try to keep as much of that as possible- but my competiton will force me to lower prices."

This.

465 "It's patently retarded we're sitting here talking about Herman Cain.
Posted by: lu at October 13, 2011 05:24 PM (pLTLS) "

It's patently retarded we are sitting here talking about Perry who told me and all others with common sense thatI didn't have a heart if I didn't support subsidizing illegal immigration. It is patently retarded that we are talking about Mitt flip flop Romney who helped pass the forerunner to Obamacare. I will take any and I mean any of them over Obama. Let them fight it out and if Cain wins, get out there and volunteer or help him with structure instead of running your mouth about how he can't win. That's the oppositions job!

466 Well, a 62 vote majority would, anyway.

We have more than 2 aisle crossing RINOs.

467 AllenG

I was in New Orleans-and they were charging something gawd awful...

9% and more at the airport.

468 @462

The media, the elites, did nothing to dampen my support of Perry, thank you very much.

I'm a big boy and fully capable of independently deciding his "heartless" comment is a reflection of his passion favoring a position with which I strongly disagree.

I did it all on my own.

469 Ben,
I took the liberty of fixing that for you. .....And yeah, Perry is the guy who could give us a landslide. Unlike any of the others.
thanks. I've decided in the past few days to go all out. I'm not sitting back and waiting for a repeat of 2008 when we have a candidate that 75 percent of our party isn't enthusiastic about.
And while Cain is likeable, people know nothing about him. He has face absolutely no scrutiny from the media or other republicans at the debates. We literally know nothing about the guy except he hasn't held office, he couldn't win a primary in Georgia(his home state), something about pizzas, he was in the private sector and 9-9-9. It's not enough for me to walk away from Perry who has an established record and who has been vetted by everyone, even Karl Rove when he ran KBH against Perry in the last governors race.
So i've been typing fast and not proofreading. Thanks for the correction!

470 But the point is it doesn't have to be Romney.
75% of the party wants nothing to do with him. He isn't the default
candidate. He only wins if the 75% splits their vote.

Posted by: Ben at October 13, 2011 05:07 PM (wuv1c)
You do realize this is not a two way race right now. That 75% "against" him is people that prefer another candidate now. Once the other candidates start falling out, his vote percentage and the percentage of the other candidates starts to rise unitl it is left to 2 candidates, then one will get about 60-75 percent.From the 2008 California Primary, McCain 36%, Romney 31%, Huckabee 13.5%, Ron Paul! 3.2%. Primary held 1/29.From the 2008 Pennsylvannia Primary, McCain 73%, Huckabee 11%, Ron Paul! 16%. Primary held 4/22
Did the enthusiasm for McCain double in three months? No. Did the support for Ron Paul! quintuple in 3 months? No. Their vote totals went up because others dropped out. When the Bachmans, Gingrichs, and other secondary candidates drop out, then their supporters will move to one of the remaining 3. That is when we find out who is the second choice of the party faithful, and that is who will get the nomination. Right now, that appears to be Romney, Cain or Perry. But there is always room for an implosion like Rudy in 08.

471 *your not you're

sighh

472 His one weakness, immigration, is really not what people make it out to be, if you study his true position.
Yeah, it's worse, including support for amnesty. He's said the same 'back of the line' stuff that Juan McCain did.
I figured out with George Bush that when Texas is doing awesome, its because Texas is awesome, not because its governor is. Won't be fooled again.